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Re: Jobkeeper Part time to Casual

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Hello There,

 

Looking for guidance on this issue.

 

  • Company is eligible for the Jobkeeper
  • Director of company actively managing the business was a part time perm employee for another business but was on unpaid leave from 14th March 2020. 
  • Company registered for the job keeper for eligible participant on 19th April (the definition available from ATO website  on 19th April regarding eligible participant eligibility is give below) and the Director has become casual employee from permanent part time from 27th April 2020.

Question

When the reporting is done for 30th March Fortnight on May 4, which date should the Director as eligible participant claim to be paid for Job Keeper? Will it be the fortnight begining 30th March 2020 or from 27th April 2020?

 

Eligible Participant Criteria available on 19th April 2020 (no mention of not eligible if employed other than as casual)

 

Work out your eligibility

You need to be an eligible entity and have an eligible business participant.

  Eligible business participant

Your non-employee individual is an eligible business participant of your entity for the fortnight if they meet all of the following:

  • They are an individual not employed by your entity.
  • They are actively engaged in the business carried on by your entity (at 1 March 2020 and for the fortnight you are claiming).
  • They are one of the following (at 1 March 2020 and for the fortnight you are claiming)  
    • a sole trader
    • a partner in the partnership
    • an adult beneficiary of the trust
    • a shareholder or director in the company.
  • As at 1 March 2020, they are both  
    • aged at least 16
    • an Australian resident (within the meaning of section 7 of the Social Security Act 1991), or a resident for income tax purposes and the holder of a special category (Subclass 444) visa.
  • They are not currently receiving government parental leave or Dad and partner pay.
  • They are not currently totally incapacitated for work and receiving payments under an Australian workers’ compensation law in respect of their total incapacity to work.

 

Thanks

MK

 

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Hi @MKN1 

Thanks for getting in touch with us.

If you’re a long-term casual employee of another business and an eligible business participant, you can choose who you claim JobKeeper through.However, only one claim for JobKeeper can be made per person.

From what you have described, the company Director has applied as the eligible business participant. If they applied for that and where eligible as at 1 March 2020, then they will be paid for the fortnight begining 30th March 2020.

Hope this information helps.

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Hi @MKN1 

Thanks for getting in touch with us.

If you’re a long-term casual employee of another business and an eligible business participant, you can choose who you claim JobKeeper through.However, only one claim for JobKeeper can be made per person.

From what you have described, the company Director has applied as the eligible business participant. If they applied for that and where eligible as at 1 March 2020, then they will be paid for the fortnight begining 30th March 2020.

Hope this information helps.

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Hi RobynS,

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

Few clarifications to get the things right:

 

1. Person X as a Director is applying as an eligible business participant for JobSeeker through the Entity say 'A'. Director runs a business under this entity 'A'

2. Person X was also a part time perm employee for another entity say 'B' till 26th April 2020 but was on unpaid leave since March 14th 2020

3. Peron X has become casual employee from 27th April 2020 for entity 'B' 

Question:

Which Date/Fortnight cycle Person X is eligible to apply for  & get the Jobkeeper payments started

 

Many thanks, 

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Hi @MKN1,

 

Let me firstly apologies for the delay in responding to your follow up question. We do understand what a difficult and confusing time this can be.

 

You have referenced Job Seeker however I think you are talking about JobKeeper, my answer will relate to JobKeeper.

 

If the business and the director meet all the eligibility guidelines the director may be eligible to apply for JobKeeper as an eligible business participant from 27 April 2020, when they became a casual employee of the other entity. As one of the eligibility requirements is that an eligible business participant can’t be an employee of another entity except as a casual.

 

I hope this helps you and we appreciate your patience, SueO

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Hi @SueATO 

 

Thanks for the clarification and appreciate the support provided. Getting an answer to this helps as there were lot different interpretations floating around since it was looking like a grey area.

 

Regards,

MKN1

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Hello @SueATO ,

While applying for the first time, I have put down the suggested steps, appreciate if you can confirm:

 

1. The month you are applying for the JobKeeper wage subsidy - April 2020

2. identify eligible business pariticipant

3. JobKeeper status - choose 'not claiming yet'

4. Report April & May GST Turnover

5. Add : Eligible participant bank details

 

or 

 

1. The month you are applying for the JobKeeper wage subsidy - May 2020

2. identify eligible business pariticipant

3. JobKeeper status - choose 'claim FN 3 & 4'

4. No option to Report April & May GST Turnover, but the fall in turonver month compared is April 2020

5. Add : Eligible participant bank details

 

Thanks

MKN 1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi @MKN1

 

Thanks for getting back to us and for your patience.

 

If you are comparing April 2020 with April 2019 or April to June 2020 with April to June 2019, the first option is the correct one.

 

If you are comparing May 2020 with May 2019, the second option is the correct one.

 

For more information, refer to the JobKeeper guides on our website.

 

All the best.

 

Thanks, Chris