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22 Sept 2021

Just reaching out to discover more information with the trend of Crypto-Currency.

1. What are the implications of recieving cryptocurrency for goods/services provided in a commercial environment?> Obviously it is quiet a volatile trading value so should AUD valuation take place at the point of the transaction or after at your sale price?> What occurs with the cryptocurrencies that selfmine as a reward characteristic for holding the values - should you separate the quantity of the coins and treat them as PAYG and then treat the added ones as CGT.> Does the conversion rate take into consideration the fees necessary to convert the crypto into cash?

2. What are the implications of giving cryptocurrency for employees in a commercial environment?> Understand that it will deal with fringe benefit tax if it an appropriate salary sacrifice environemnt.

> Is PAYG installment amount based on the value of the crypto at the end of their pay cycle?

> Do the transaction fees have any implications?

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BlakeATO(Community Support)Community Support
ATO Certified Response27 Sept 2021

Hi @williamcraig What are the implications of receiving cryptocurrency for goods/services provided in a commercial environment? If you receive crypto instead of AUD, you need to include the value in Australian dollars at the time you receive it. Where that crypto then receives airdrops, you include that when you receive it as ordinary income. That airdropped amount becomes its own capital asset subject to CGT. The conversion/exchange rate doesn't account for exchange fees. Instead, these are deductions when you cash out (for the barter transactions). For the CGT assets, they go into the cost base. Remember that you'll need to take the forex rules into consideration if you receive it in non-AUD FIAT first. What are the implications of giving cryptocurrency to employees in a commercial environment? Employers must withhold tax from their employees on their salary and wages. This is PAYG withholding (not PAYG instalments). The withholding obligation is calculated at the time the employee is actually paid. This only applies where there is not a salary sacrificing arrangement in place. In the event of a salary sacrifice agreement, the amount will be liable for FBT instead. Transaction fees when paying employees are deductible. You claim them as an operating expense or as employee-related payments. You can read about cryptocurrency used in business and deductions for salaries, wages and super on our website.

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treefairy(Devotee)Devotee
23 Sept 2021

Good questions, i'm in a community of a project know as Banano.Which is free and instant to send around...So to drum up some interest I was thinking of approaching Banana merchants in my state (like at markets and stuff) and pitch to them using Banano.Because it'd be easy. People just use the Kalium app, scan the shops QR code, the shop tells them the quantity of Banano to send for a bunch of bananas... and the customer can instantly send it with 0 fee.That's better than 30 cents for a customer using paywave to buy a couple fruits.So i'd love to know this too.. just so when I pitch it to merchants as a fun idea, I can let them know the tax implications of receiving crypto (Banano in this case) for bananas.^_____^

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BlakeATO(Community Support)Community Support
ATO Certified Response27 Sept 2021

Hi @williamcraig What are the implications of receiving cryptocurrency for goods/services provided in a commercial environment? If you receive crypto instead of AUD, you need to include the value in Australian dollars at the time you receive it. Where that crypto then receives airdrops, you include that when you receive it as ordinary income. That airdropped amount becomes its own capital asset subject to CGT. The conversion/exchange rate doesn't account for exchange fees. Instead, these are deductions when you cash out (for the barter transactions). For the CGT assets, they go into the cost base. Remember that you'll need to take the forex rules into consideration if you receive it in non-AUD FIAT first. What are the implications of giving cryptocurrency to employees in a commercial environment? Employers must withhold tax from their employees on their salary and wages. This is PAYG withholding (not PAYG instalments). The withholding obligation is calculated at the time the employee is actually paid. This only applies where there is not a salary sacrificing arrangement in place. In the event of a salary sacrifice agreement, the amount will be liable for FBT instead. Transaction fees when paying employees are deductible. You claim them as an operating expense or as employee-related payments. You can read about cryptocurrency used in business and deductions for salaries, wages and super on our website.

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