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andydarly(Newbie)Newbie
15 May 2023

For example if I claim 4,000km directly through work does that mean I can only claim 1,000km on my tax return or are they seperate?


So if I drive 7,000km in the year but haven't kept a log book I may not be able to claim all of this?

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AdamH(Master)Master
15 May 2023

You cannot claim a deduction where you have not incurred the cost.

so if work paid for it, then you cannot claim it, as you did not incur the expense at the end of the day


to claim ANY deductions you require record keeping


Fo cents per KM, You will generally need to keep:

  • details of the kilometres travelled for business and private use
  • receipts for fuel, oil, repairs, servicing and insurance cover
  • loan or lease documents
  • tax invoices
  • registration papers
  • details of how you calculated your claim.

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AdamH(Master)Master
15 May 2023

You cannot claim a deduction where you have not incurred the cost.

so if work paid for it, then you cannot claim it, as you did not incur the expense at the end of the day


to claim ANY deductions you require record keeping


Fo cents per KM, You will generally need to keep:

  • details of the kilometres travelled for business and private use
  • receipts for fuel, oil, repairs, servicing and insurance cover
  • loan or lease documents
  • tax invoices
  • registration papers
  • details of how you calculated your claim.

andydarly(Newbie)Newbie
15 May 2023

Hi, Adam.


Thank you for your reply. I think I phrased my question poorly. Please allow me to try again.


I am sure I have seen somewhere on the ATO website that you do not need a log book to claim 5,000km per year. That being so if I drive 7,000km in a year for work but claim 4,000km of those directly through work reimbursement this leaves 3,000km not reimbursed for.


With those 3,000km can I claim all of those without a log book because 3,000km < 5,000km or does that mean I can only claim the difference of 1,000km on my tax return? (This being the 5,000km I don't need a log book for minus the 4,000km I have been reimbursed for and therefore cannot claim).


Does that makes sense? I am not self employed.


Thanks in advance

AdamH(Master)Master
15 May 2023

Expenses for a car you own or lease | Australian Taxation Office (ato.gov.au)

5000km is the maximum you can claim under the cents per KM method, but you still require record keeping.


If you use the cents per kilometre method, you don't need receipts.

  • You do need to be able to show that you own the car and how you work out your work-related kilometres. For example, you could record your work-related trips: in a diary

I believe you would be able to claim 5000km as a deduction using this method.

(my reasoning is that you dont tell the ATO you did 7k total, you just tell them what you are claiming.) The ATO may request substantiation.

andydarly(Newbie)Newbie
15 May 2023

Hi, @AdamH thanks again for your reply.


We have a system at work that logs all trips and whether I have been reimbursed. So for clarity because I am stupid..in my example of doing 7,000km in the year but I claim directly 4,000km as a reimbursement from work does that mean I can still put the 3,000km as a deductible on my tax return because 3,000km is less than 5,000km?


Thanks in advance

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