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Investor01(Newbie)Newbie
24 Nov 2023

The question I have relates to loans from individuals (husband and wife) to a related Discretionary Trust.


The scenario is as follows:-


  • Currently the Discretionary Trust has loans in its own name with a bank totalling $1m. These funds are used for investment purposes.


  • To take advantage of cheaper lending rates, the husband and wife propose to take out a resi loan through a finance institution such as Suncorp using their residential home as the primary security. Note : this home currently has no home loan against it.


  • After receiving the funds from this loan, they propose to lend these funds to the Trust at an interest rate that is their bank loan rate plus 0.1%


  • They will do this via a formal loan agreement with the Trust.


  • To clarify, the $1m lent by the husband and wife would discharge the current bank loan which the Trust has.


  • Note : the Trust has multiple investment assets and its primary beneficiaries are the husband and wife.


Questions : Are the following assumptions correct:-


  • If the money is lent to the Trust by formal agreement and is done so for a profit (albeit small), can the husband and wife claim a tax deduction for the interest paid to their financial institution, and declare the interest income received from the Trust, i.e. the husband and wife make a small profit?


  • We have historically been told that the husband and wife, to get a tax deduction for interest, must onlend the money for profit – is this correct?


  • The Trust, like any other entity, will claim the interest paid as a deduction.


  • Consideration is being given to have a similar situation but the husband and wife would lend money to another related Trust whose sole asset is a rental property. Would the treatment of interest income and expense be treated any differently to the above?


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Bruce4Tax(Taxicorn)Taxicorn
24 Nov 2023


  • If the money is lent to the Trust by formal agreement and is done so for a profit (albeit small), can the husband and wife claim a tax deduction for the interest paid to their financial institution, and declare the interest income received from the Trust, i.e. the husband and wife make a small profit?

Yes


  • We have historically been told that the husband and wife, to get a tax deduction for interest, must onlend the money for profit – is this correct?

Yes

  • The Trust, like any other entity, will claim the interest paid as a deduction.

Yes

  • Consideration is being given to have a similar situation but the husband and wife would lend money to another related Trust whose sole asset is a rental property. Would the treatment of interest income and expense be treated any differently to the above?

Yes - if done the same way



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Bruce4Tax(Taxicorn)Taxicorn
24 Nov 2023


  • If the money is lent to the Trust by formal agreement and is done so for a profit (albeit small), can the husband and wife claim a tax deduction for the interest paid to their financial institution, and declare the interest income received from the Trust, i.e. the husband and wife make a small profit?

Yes


  • We have historically been told that the husband and wife, to get a tax deduction for interest, must onlend the money for profit – is this correct?

Yes

  • The Trust, like any other entity, will claim the interest paid as a deduction.

Yes

  • Consideration is being given to have a similar situation but the husband and wife would lend money to another related Trust whose sole asset is a rental property. Would the treatment of interest income and expense be treated any differently to the above?

Yes - if done the same way



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