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_fordfocus(Newbie)Newbie
25 Jan 2021

Hi ATO community,

I purchased and received a then tiny amount of bitcoin nearly a decade ago which has since appreciated considerably. I have only managed to gain access to it recently.I assume I don't owe any taxes on it as I haven't transacted with it, but that might be difficult to prove given the bitcoin was stored on a custodial wallet. The wallet in question would use this address to send their own transactions. What should I do?

Additionally, is it a taxable event to use this asset as collateral to secure loans?

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JodieR_ATO(Community Support)Community Support
29 Jan 2021

Hi @fordfocus,

The website advises - A capital gains tax (CGT) event occurs when you dispose of your cryptocurrency. A disposal can occur when you:

    • sell or gift cryptocurrency
    • trade or exchange cryptocurrency (including the disposal of one cryptocurrency for another cryptocurrency)
    • convert cryptocurrency to fiat currency (a currency established by government regulation or law ), such as Australian dollars, or
    • use cryptocurrency to obtain goods or services.

    You mentioned there were transactions via the custodial wallet. Were any of these due to you transferring, disposing or selling any of the crypto? In order to declare these when a CGT event occurs, we would advise you to keep records of all transactions you have made. We have relevant information about transacting with cryptocurrency via this link.

    If you have other questions please let us know.

    All the best.

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    KylieATO(Community Support)Community Support
    27 Jan 2021

    Hi @fordfocus

    Using something as collateral is not a tax even as you are not buying or selling. We will check on the other part of your question and get back to you.

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    JodieR_ATO(Community Support)Community Support
    29 Jan 2021

    Hi @fordfocus,

    The website advises - A capital gains tax (CGT) event occurs when you dispose of your cryptocurrency. A disposal can occur when you:

      • sell or gift cryptocurrency
      • trade or exchange cryptocurrency (including the disposal of one cryptocurrency for another cryptocurrency)
      • convert cryptocurrency to fiat currency (a currency established by government regulation or law ), such as Australian dollars, or
      • use cryptocurrency to obtain goods or services.

      You mentioned there were transactions via the custodial wallet. Were any of these due to you transferring, disposing or selling any of the crypto? In order to declare these when a CGT event occurs, we would advise you to keep records of all transactions you have made. We have relevant information about transacting with cryptocurrency via this link.

      If you have other questions please let us know.

      All the best.

      _ara23(I'm new)I'm new
      19 Aug 2021

      Hi

      @Jodie_ATO wrote:

      Hi @fordfocus,

      The website advises - A capital gains tax (CGT) event occurs when you dispose of your cryptocurrency. A disposal can occur when you:

      • sell or gift cryptocurrency
      • trade or exchange cryptocurrency (including the disposal of one cryptocurrency for another cryptocurrency)
      • convert cryptocurrency to fiat currency (a currency established by government regulation or law ), such as Australian dollars, or
      • use cryptocurrency to obtain goods or services.

      You mentioned there were transactions via the custodial wallet. Were any of these due to you transferring, disposing or selling any of the crypto? In order to declare these when a CGT event occurs, we would advise you to keep records of all transactions you have made. We have relevant information about transacting with cryptocurrency via this link.

      If you have other questions please let us know.

      All the best.

      Hi Jodie

      So what about the borrowed amount using collateral? Is it taxable income? Actually, we are paying interest on top of the collateral amount. and finally, we have to pay the loan back. So "borrowed amount using collateral" is it going to be considered as a taxable income ?

      Could you please clear this doubt for us ?

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