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27 Oct 2022

Hi All,


Matt is a 9-5 job goer. He day trades crypto and crypto options. His situation is bit different and unique.


To trade options, Matt has to follow these procedures


1)Send AUD to a centralized exchange (like Binance, kucoin etc)

2)BUY XRP(a crypto) and send to another Exchange

3)Convert XRP to USDT

4)Trade crypto options using USDT


The final outcome of whole year trading is around 4500 USDT LOSS.

So Matt made a loss of 4500 USDT whole year. But the question is in the process.


The conversion of AUD to XRP is taxable?

the conversion of XRP to USDT is taxable?


The aim of MATT is to get USDT in the new exchange and trade options using USDT. Even though he made final loss, if the conversion is taxed it's a double blow for him. So please clarify.


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AriATO(Community Support)Community Support
ATO Certified Response4 Nov 2022

Hi @Anonymouses123


If Matt is not carrying on a business of dealing with crypto assets then Matt will be subject to CGT rules. See Crypto-asset-investments


The conversion of AUD to XRP ( purchase of a crypto) is not a taxable CGT event.  


The transfer of Matt’s XRP to another exchange is not a taxable CGT event unless there is a change in legal or beneficial interest in the XRP. If Matt’s cryptocurrency holding reduces during this transfer to cover the network fee, the transaction fee is a disposal and has capital gain consequences. If Matt’s transaction fee cost $X when Matt purchased it and the market value of the transaction fee is Y, the tax consequences is Y-X


When Matt exchanged the XRP to USDT, Matt disposed of one CGT asset and acquire another. Therefore, a CGT event happens to Matt’s original crypto asset. Because Matt received property instead of money, Matt needs to work out the market value of the crypto asset in Australian dollars. For more information go to Crypto to crypto exchange or swap (QC 69949)


However, if Matt is carrying on a business of trading in crypto assets then assets used in that business will be trading stock and the CGT rules will not apply: see Crypto assets used in business on our website.

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AriATO(Community Support)Community Support
1 Nov 2022

Hi @Anonymouses123


We'll get some information from our technical area

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AriATO(Community Support)Community Support
ATO Certified Response4 Nov 2022

Hi @Anonymouses123


If Matt is not carrying on a business of dealing with crypto assets then Matt will be subject to CGT rules. See Crypto-asset-investments


The conversion of AUD to XRP ( purchase of a crypto) is not a taxable CGT event.  


The transfer of Matt’s XRP to another exchange is not a taxable CGT event unless there is a change in legal or beneficial interest in the XRP. If Matt’s cryptocurrency holding reduces during this transfer to cover the network fee, the transaction fee is a disposal and has capital gain consequences. If Matt’s transaction fee cost $X when Matt purchased it and the market value of the transaction fee is Y, the tax consequences is Y-X


When Matt exchanged the XRP to USDT, Matt disposed of one CGT asset and acquire another. Therefore, a CGT event happens to Matt’s original crypto asset. Because Matt received property instead of money, Matt needs to work out the market value of the crypto asset in Australian dollars. For more information go to Crypto to crypto exchange or swap (QC 69949)


However, if Matt is carrying on a business of trading in crypto assets then assets used in that business will be trading stock and the CGT rules will not apply: see Crypto assets used in business on our website.

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