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Brougo(Newbie)Newbie
7 June 2026

Hi community,


I noticed a similar question was asked here in October 2024 regarding CFE (Caisse des Français de l’Étranger) contributions and Article 17(4) of the France-Australia Tax Treaty.


My situation is nearly identical:

  • French expatriate in Australia (Perth, TSS 482 visa).
  • Contributing to CFE since 01/09/2024.
  • CFE is managed by CNAV (French social security) and validates pension quarters (I have official attestations).
  • I was not an Australian resident before 01/09/2024 and started contributing to CFE immediately before/at the start of my employment in Australia.

Key difference:

  • I have official CFE attestations proving the scheme’s recognition in France.

Question:

In the previous thread, the ATO redirected to general super contribution eligibility criteria. However, Article 17(4) seems to provide a specific pathway for foreign pension schemes like CFE.

  • Does the ATO accept that CFE meets the conditions of Article 17(4)?
  • If not, what additional evidence would be required to demonstrate that CFE is "recognised for tax purposes in France" (Article 17(4)(b)(ii))?

Any clarification would be greatly appreciated!


Note: I’m considering a Private Ruling but wanted to check if there’s been any update since October 2024.

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KaraATO(Community Support)Community Support
11 June 2026

Hello @Brougo,


We’ve heard back from our subject matter experts.


Given the complexity of your situation, it may be worth considering a private ruling. This can provide certainty on how the relevant tax treaty may apply to your scheme or arrangement.


Article 17(4) of the Australia - France tax treaty provides a framework for determining whether French pension scheme contributions can be treated in Australia in the same way as contributions to an Australian pension scheme or vice versa.


Whether that provision applies will depend on the particular facts and circumstances, including the nature of the pension scheme, the type of contributions made, and your individual circumstances. The interaction between the treaty and Australia’s domestic tax and super rules can also be complex.

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KaraATO(Community Support)Community Support
9 June 2026

Hi @Brougo,


We're going to reach out to our subject matter experts to confirm a few things before responding. We'll respond as soon as we have more info to share.

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KaraATO(Community Support)Community Support
11 June 2026

Hello @Brougo,


We’ve heard back from our subject matter experts.


Given the complexity of your situation, it may be worth considering a private ruling. This can provide certainty on how the relevant tax treaty may apply to your scheme or arrangement.


Article 17(4) of the Australia - France tax treaty provides a framework for determining whether French pension scheme contributions can be treated in Australia in the same way as contributions to an Australian pension scheme or vice versa.


Whether that provision applies will depend on the particular facts and circumstances, including the nature of the pension scheme, the type of contributions made, and your individual circumstances. The interaction between the treaty and Australia’s domestic tax and super rules can also be complex.

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