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gn12(Newbie)Newbie
19 Sept 2024

Hi there, I work for a gov department in Victoria and would like to use Novated Leasing. The vehicle I am looking at will be for private use and it is a Ute. Unfortunately, its payload has been increased from 1000kg to 1045kg just a couple of months ago. This Ute is no different to similar Utes that are under the payload but $10-$20k less. In the past you could add a tow bar etc and allow the payload to be lessened due to addition of weight. I have been told that the types of vehicles I can salary sacrifice are set by the provider. Is this true and where can I get any rulings on whether there is an exemption if a Ute is over the 1000kg payload if it is only for private use

Thank you,

Greg

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Pete2024(I'm new)I'm new
19 Sept 2024

I'd be interested in the response. I have a similar query. I can't find the right information on this on the ATO website and fleet companies seem to be vague. They are hesitant to make the "wrong" call and choose to err on the side of caution when giving advice

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TamaraATO(Community Support)Community Support
20 Sept 2024

Hello @gn12 and @Pete2024,


No worries.


This could get tricky. Sounds like you should have a chat to our tailored technical team. 😎

gn12(Newbie)Newbie
17 Oct 2024

I did speak with a person from the "tailored technical team," but they were not much assistance. They said that they were not overly knowledgeable on novated leases. I was pointing out more information to the "consultant" rather than being provided with helpful advice. In fact, he was reading some older posts that I know were floating around.

notmyfault(Initiate)Initiate
23 Oct 2024

The answer is simple:

https://www.ato.gov.au/law/view/document?DocID=SAV%2FFBTGEMP%2F00008).

  1. A car is a road vehicle powered by a motor (petrol, diesel, hybrid, or electric)
  2. designed to carry a load of less than one tonne
  3. and designed to carry fewer than nine passengers

If the above conditions are met, then it is classified as a car and can be a Car Fringe Benefit, you would need to go through the rest of the steps to workout the result.


However, since the ute's designed payload is 1,045 kg, it is not considered a car.

  • Adding accessories to the vehicle, such as a tow bar to reduce the usable payload, does not change the designed payload. It only reduces the amount of usable payload remaining.
  • Similarly, adding the driver and passengers would also reduce the remaining payload by their weight, but the vehicle's designed payload did not change.

To date, I have not had any success in reducing the payload.


It’s important to note that a novated lease benefits the employee, not the employer.

For the employee its PAYG and GST tax savings.

For the employer, it is administration heavy and at a zero financial cost (what they spend on your behalf (excluding GST) is recovered from your payroll).


If the ATO determines that the vehicle is, in fact, not a 'Car', and falls out from being a bona fide lease, your employer bears the Fringe Benefits Tax (FBT) liability, FBT is only paid by companies.

And... those payroll deductions - not the cost of the car - could become the basis for the 'Fringe Benefit'. Could mean instead of being 20% of the car's cost, the 'Fringe Benefit' could be based on the actual expenditure at 47%.

And that extra cost would be passed on to you.


Crossed fingers you got it all setup correctly.

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