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_rwandrall(Initiate)Initiate
16 Apr 2021

Hello,

I became a tax resident on January 2019 (and have a private ruling to support it). I did not work until August 2019 and thus had no employer contributions for super, nor did I have an opened super account.

The ATO does not report any unused concessional contribution cap for 2018-19. I called the ATO hotline and the person told me to file a request for correction via this form but I never had a SMSF nor am I trying to register concessional contributions (since I didnt make any). The ATO person's view was that, not having a super fund and not having made any concessional contributions during this financial year (2018-19), I am not eligible to the carry forward.

The person was not able to point me to the relevant piece of legislation or ATO ruling that would support my ineligibility, so I'm reaching out here to:

1) figure whether or not I am actually eligible to carry forward my unused concess. contributions (which I assume would have to be prorated based on the number of days I was a tax resident)

2) indicate how I can formally make a request to the ATO (to take a view or make the correction)

3) if all else fails, is a private ruling request relevant here?

Thank you.

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JodieR_ATO(Community Support)Community Support
ATO Certified Response19 Apr 2021

Hi @rwandrall,

The form you were advised of is incorrect. To use your unused cap amounts you need to meet two conditions:

  • Your 'total super balance' at the end of 30 June of the previous financial year is less than $500,000.
  • You made concessional contributions in the financial year that exceeded your general concessional contributions cap.

The amount of unused cap amounts you will be able to carry-forward will depend on the amount you have contributed in previous years, starting from 2018–19. You can use caps from up to five previous financial years.

I've included 2 legal database links below, I cannot see anything that advises you can't apply the carry-forward concession. Generally it is automatic on our behalf, we would allow the extra contributions to be included in the financial year following, as long as the two conditions are met.

You can write in or request a callback from our early engagement team for assistance if you'd like further interpretation.

Links-

Total super balance.

Carry-forward unused concessional contributions.

Legal database Section 291-20 to 291-20(7).

Law Companion ruling LCR 2016/11.

Early engagement.

All the best.

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JodieR_ATO(Community Support)Community Support
ATO Certified Response19 Apr 2021

Hi @rwandrall,

The form you were advised of is incorrect. To use your unused cap amounts you need to meet two conditions:

  • Your 'total super balance' at the end of 30 June of the previous financial year is less than $500,000.
  • You made concessional contributions in the financial year that exceeded your general concessional contributions cap.

The amount of unused cap amounts you will be able to carry-forward will depend on the amount you have contributed in previous years, starting from 2018–19. You can use caps from up to five previous financial years.

I've included 2 legal database links below, I cannot see anything that advises you can't apply the carry-forward concession. Generally it is automatic on our behalf, we would allow the extra contributions to be included in the financial year following, as long as the two conditions are met.

You can write in or request a callback from our early engagement team for assistance if you'd like further interpretation.

Links-

Total super balance.

Carry-forward unused concessional contributions.

Legal database Section 291-20 to 291-20(7).

Law Companion ruling LCR 2016/11.

Early engagement.

All the best.

_rwandrall(Initiate)Initiate
20 Apr 2021

Thank you for taking the time to reply Jodie.

Do you know how to make a request to ATO for my ATO account to reflect properly the unused cap in 2018-19 ? I think this would help confirm that I am indeed eligible for the carry forward (especially as my tax residency only started mid year) ?

I reached out to the early engagement team in parallel.

helloaki(Newbie)Newbie
22 Feb 2023

Hi @rwandrall and @Jodie_ATO


Not sure if this got fixed for you or not in last 2 years. I am also in the same boat and I am sure that there is some technical issue in ATO system (for a small set of cases) that it does not show the unused cap amount of previous years.


My case is also similar to you and I am also struggling to get this updated in ATO website. Case:


  • No super contributions in year FY18-19, FY19-20, FY20-21.
  • 22K super contributions in FY21-22. I wanted to utilize my unused cap of previous years (25k for FY18-19, 25K for FY19-20, 25K for FY20-21 and remaining 5.5k for FY21-22, as cap is 27.5K from last year)
  • ATO's Carry-forward concessional contributions section (in my account) is not showing the Unused concessional contributions cap values
  • This is a technical issue. 100% sure, I have proof but no-one willing to dig deeper (so far)


History of struggle:

  • Call-1: It was told that it can take time to reflect, I waited for the completion of full financial year
  • Call-2: It was told that I am not eligible for previous years as I was not contributing at all in those years. Person spent time to discuss with his senior and confirmed. Lol
  • Call-3: Appreciated. The lady was very helpful and confirmed that I am eligible and helped to show me ATO example. Search 'QC 19749' and look for Example: carry forward concessional contributions – Sean (no prior super). Perfect match. But no solution in system
  • Call-4: First response was I am not eligible, then I pointed them to example. They agreed and said that a request raised internally. I waited 6 weeks but nothing happens.
  • Call-5: same cycle but this time I had example of my wife with similar case but the previous years caps are visible in the account. Today they asked to submit OBJECT-FORM.


When I started, I found that it is not relevant as I am not objecting a decision. I wand a solution of the technical glitch in data.


I am wondering if someone has found a solution in last few years or we are still in stone age?



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