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_DarkWarrior7000(Initiate)Initiate
17 Feb 2021

If I have crypto held in a USA company/bank that gives me interest (denominated in crypto), is that an ordinary income taxed through the Australian tax office, OR do I need to declare this interest earned as foreign income and file taxes in the USA because it's through an American company? Does the interest's denomination affect how this is treated? e.g. If I was paid interest in G-USD instead, or paid in AUD directly?

If the price of crypto heavily dips (or heavily surges) on the minute I receive the interest, how is fair market value calculated? e.g. if I earn 0.01 btc credited at 9am, at the same time the prices were trading at A$63000 and A$45000, is my fair market value A$630 or A$450, or an average of the two?

If I intend to dispose of this interest same day ASAP, (as soon as it is credited to the account and withdrawals processed), could my disposed value be considered the fair market value? e.g. If I earn 0.01 btc at 9am, I sell it for A$630 ASAP with 1-2 hour delay at most, is my fair market value 630, or is this an invalid calculation? Or do I still need to find the fair market value at precisely the time it was credited? (What if the time is not provided by the company?)

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KylieATO(Community Support)Community Support
ATO Certified Response24 Feb 2021

Hi @DarkWarrior7000

Question 1:

Interest paid in any form to an Australian resident is assessable in Australia. Often it will be assessable in the other country, there may be a limit on the tax imposed by the other country because of a Double Tax Agreement. If it is taxable, some or all of the tax actually paid overseas maybe allowed as a Foreign Income Tax Offset against the Australian tax paid.

Question 2:

The market value of the crypto on receipt should be established in way that is consistent with the arrangement with the payer of the interest and with the way you usually value your crypto. If for example the payer paid you the crypto to satisfy a $600 interest bill it would be reasonable to value the crypto received at $600. Alternatively, if you always traded on a particular exchange it would be reasonable to use the value provided by that exchange.

Question 3:

If the crypto received as interest is disposed of in a normal commercial transaction on the same day it was credited it would usually be appropriate to treat the proceeds of the disposal as the value of interest received.

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KylieATO(Community Support)Community Support
ATO Certified Response24 Feb 2021

Hi @DarkWarrior7000

Question 1:

Interest paid in any form to an Australian resident is assessable in Australia. Often it will be assessable in the other country, there may be a limit on the tax imposed by the other country because of a Double Tax Agreement. If it is taxable, some or all of the tax actually paid overseas maybe allowed as a Foreign Income Tax Offset against the Australian tax paid.

Question 2:

The market value of the crypto on receipt should be established in way that is consistent with the arrangement with the payer of the interest and with the way you usually value your crypto. If for example the payer paid you the crypto to satisfy a $600 interest bill it would be reasonable to value the crypto received at $600. Alternatively, if you always traded on a particular exchange it would be reasonable to use the value provided by that exchange.

Question 3:

If the crypto received as interest is disposed of in a normal commercial transaction on the same day it was credited it would usually be appropriate to treat the proceeds of the disposal as the value of interest received.

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